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	T h e   F i d o G a z e t t e!   Volume III number  IX	November  2009
	New Members/In the Works/Returning Members.................(2)
	The Old School Toolbox: ...................................(3)
	The Slightly Crusty SysOp .................................(4)
	FidoGazette BBS List.......................................(5)                                               
	Dr.Debug Answers Your Questions............................(6)
	Info (Where to Send Articles)..............................(8)
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	T h e   F i d o G a z e t t e!   Volume III number  IX	November  2009
	(NOTE: Want to submit a guest editorial? Send your contribution in  an
	email to fidogazette @ filegate . net or a netmail to 1:261/38 with
	'Guest-Editorial' in the subject line.)
	Our FTSC election is well on it's way, with candidates offering up
	replies to queries regarding experience, etc.  Well and good.

	It has been noted, I think importantly, by candidate Sean Dennis that
	historically, programmers are notoriously _bad_ documenters, and also
	noted by others (myself) that is why most software companies have a
	documentation department.  This, due to repeated efforts by some
	(unnamed) to degrade some candidates.  Pathetic, really.  While it is
	true that we want people elected to the FTSC who are actually going to
	DO something, insisting that members of the committee be programmers is
	not the way to go, IMNSHO.  Wonderful if they have some experience in
	documenting however... since the FTSC committee's major purpose is to
	document current practice in our network.

	A reminder of dates, below:

	Submission of votes:  Sunday, Oct 25, 20:00 UTC - Sunday, Nov 8 2009
	Contesting of votes:  Sunday, Nov 8, 2009, 20:00 UTC 
			              Sunday, Nov 15 2009, 20:00 UTC

	If  no  contest,   installation of new members:   Monday Nov 16. 20:00 UTC

	Only RCs and RECs may vote in this election.  Ask your RC to query
	members of your net so that your vote can be heard!
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	T h e F i d o G a z e t t e!  Volume III number  IX November 2009
	Want your site's new applications represented here or new nodes in
	your net shown here?  Send the information as below to janis @
	filegate.net or to Janis Kracht at 1:261/38 (filegate.net via binkp,
	no password required).
	New & Returning Members 
	By Janis Kracht
	New Nodes
	Welcome to Fidonet!

	Phill Terry Region 11, Columbus, Ohio                   

	In the Works: 
	Ray Khechen Region 10, Pismo Beach, CA.    
	Chris Costanzo Region 13, Caldwell, NJ

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	T h e F i d o G a z e t t e!  Volume III number  IX November 2009
	|The Old School Toolbox|
	Is Your Favorite Echo an Orphan?  Part II.
	By Richard Webb, 1:116/901
	You've  found  an echo of possible interest in the echolist, and
	checked backbone.na with no joy.  This still isn't totally reliable as
	an indicator of backbone status, or former distribution.  Two other
	files distributed in the backbone file echo may be of help to you.
	The   first   of   these  two,  backbone.no  lists  echomail
	conferences that although still in distribution have had no coherent
	activity over the reporting period.  AT this point ask your sysop to
	bring it in for you if not available.  YOu might just be the spark of
	life it needs.

	As  noted  in part 1 of this series an echo which remains in
	backbone.no for awhile is going to find its way to the backbone.dst
	file.  This file indicates echomail conferences which are no longer
	distributed due to no coherent activity for a few months.  THe
	moderator of such a conference will need to request carriage once
	again, just as if it were a brand new echomail conference.  sometimes
	life can be restored to these with just a couple of active participants
	showing an interest.  The conference I mentioned in the last column
	seems to fit this example quite well.
	Be sure to check all three backbone files  if  you  find  an echo of
	interest to determine its status.  If you'd like to help revive an echo
	that has fallen out of distribution ask the moderator to request
	carriage via netmail or email.
	But,  if  you  haven't  found  a  conference  on  a topic of interest
	to you there are steps you can take to get one started.  YOu can bone
	your own.
	There is always room for interesting echomail conferences in FIdonet. 
	Major backbones used to carry lots of different conferences on
	everything from airplanes to zoology.  With the decline in numbers many
	FIdonet echoes went by the wayside.  Your topic of interest might just
	be the spark of life some bbs system needs.  Of course, we lead into
	this topic in this space last month by discussing orphan echomail
	conferences or those with absentee moderators.  But, it's always better
	to see a new topic available as an echomail conference.
	Getting a conference listed, and carried on the backbone  is not
	difficult.  This was well covered in a previous issue of FIdogazette,
	but let's briefly review the process for those who may have missed it. 
	FIrst, decide on an echomail tag for it.  This is an alphanumeric
	string that mail processors will use to define it, i.e.  the leftmost
	column in the backbone files described earlier.  NO spaces, use
	underscore dash or the ubiquitous .  as in usenet newsgroup names in
	lieu of spaces.  THen compose a brief description of your conference's
	theme or topic.
	Your  next  step,  at least here in North America is to list your
	conference with the echolist.  See the FIdogazette for --- of 2009 for
	a full description of this process.  IF you're not a sysop or point
	operator you'll want to enlist the assistance of your host sysop, which
	should include granting you access to netmail if you don't have it
	already.  In fact, if you're a bbs user you'll need the cooperation of
	a friendly bbs operator to properly manage and maintain your
	conference.  Although not stated in the echolist netmail access is a
	prerequisite if you wish to be an effective fidonet moderator.
	When you receive your confirmation message from the echolist via email
	or netmail (whichever you used to send it) you'll want to save it as a
	text file, because at that point you're ready to request carriage on
	the backbone.  HEre again in zone 1 (North America) YOu'll want to post
	a message in the z1_backbone echomail conference providing the text of
	this echolist confirmation message with a request to add it to the
	backbone.  You'll soon (within a day or so) see a confirmation message
	from the backbone administrator.  See an earlier version of this
	publication for a more in depth description of this process.
	It's fairly easy to "bone your own" The hard part is keeping it alive. 
	Part of keeping it alive, and available to those who might wish to
	participate is posting that rules file you created to the echomail
	conference periodically.  You did create a rules file for this purpose,
	I hope.  Many post their rules once a month, some weekly, and some on
	other periodic schedules.  I seem to prefer monthly.  IF you find
	you're the moderator of a very popular and busy echomail conference you
	might wish to switch to weekly postings of your rules so that they
	don't scroll off of participating bbs systems.  You'll also wish to
	renew your conference listing with the echolist every six months, or
	more frequently.  BY default I renew the listing of echomail
	conferences I moderate every month just to make sure.  If you're a bbs
	user and not a sysop or point operator talk to your host sysop about
	assistance with this.  HE/she might already utilize robot message
	posters for other purposes, and perhaps you can talk him or her into
	posting your renewals with the echolist, and your rules in the
	conference using these tools.  If you're a point op or sysop and don't
	utilize these tools but would find this a useful technique see my
	earlier columns in this publication for more info on using them, and
	choosing one which suits you.

	Some  fidonet  folks offer automatic echolist update/renewal services
	for others.  Whether you ask one of these friendly people to assist you
	with this, or enlist your host sysop you'll want to make sure he/she
	has the password you use with the echolist for that conference.  This
	password will be necessary to both post the update to the database and
	the updated rules file.  THere are disadvantages to this approach
	however, at least to the rest of us out here in Fidoland.  If you
	become a MIA moderator and leave us with a latchkey kid echo (see
	above) we might not realize it until it's too late to do anything about
	it.  The automation is a double edged blade here.  It makes your life
	easier, but if you have somebody else doing it for you it can be just
	chugging along on autopilot because nobody told it to stop updating
	your echo listing as you'd dropped out of sight.  so, if you ask
	somebody to handle your echolist updates and other periodic posts by
	proxy make sure you keep in regular contact with that person, and if
	your circumstances change be nice to the rest of us and turn the echo
	over to another interested party, like your co-moderator.
	Posting your rules occasionally does a couple of good things for you as
	well as the rest of us out here in Fidoland.  It lets conference
	participants know what to expect.  It also helps establish a pattern of
	activity which in the absence of other posts will keep your echo from
	becoming a backbone audit casualty.  Along with your rules occasionally
	post items of interest which are germane to the echo.  Obviously you
	have some interest in the topic and peruse other sources of information
	related to it.  OTherwise, you wouldn't have wanted to start a
	conference regarding it.  THis also helps concerned and interested
	folks know that this isn't a "latchkey kid" echomail conference, just
	hanging around unattended, uncared about and ignored.

	Use those other sources of information and discussion groups to promote
	your echo.  If your echomail conference is related to a skill or
	profession drop a note to publications in your field telling them about
	your conference, providing a few references to systems where it can be
	accessed using a variety of methods, i.e.  telnet, pots, www etc.  USe
	internet listservs in the same manner.

	Appoint a co-moderator. Even if you don't expect to be  away from the
	echo for more than a day or so the unexpected can, and often does
	occur.  Find somebody else who's interested and conversant with the
	topic of your echo, and who has reasonably good people skills.  Ask
	this person to be your co-moderator.  SOme echo moderators even go so
	far as to provide the echolist password and other information to their
	co-mod just in case.  If you're not the operator of a point or node
	system you might wish to obtain the assistance of a point or system
	operator as your co-mod.  They can perform other necessary tasks to
	keep your conference humming along smoothly with a minimum of hassle. 
	Some of these will be a bit more difficult for you to do if you're not
	a sysop or point operator.  That co-moderator can help keep your echo
	out of the dreaded latchkey kid category.  then, when you can return to
	Fidonet in the future you might just find a vibrant echo community that
	you helped build which was maintained by the co-mod you appointed.

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	T h e F i d o G a z e t t e!  Volume III number  IX November 2009

	| The Slightly Crusty SysOp| 
	By Sean Dennis,  1:18/200
	Well, October came and went in a hurry so here's November.  It's
	definitely fall; the trees are turning brillant shades of yellow,
	red, orange and everything in between around here thanks to the
	cool weather we're having.  I've been busy working on hanging up
	a 135-foot long ham radio antenna in this weather and I couldn't
	ask for better weather.  I could ask for an easier time trying
	to install the antenna though!
	This is traditionally the time when Fidonet tends to start getting
	a little busier since there's less to do outside and people like
	to keep warm around a toasty monitor instead.  I've seen a little
	more traffic here and there in various echoes but there's not a
	lot right now (not that there ever is THAT much, but...).
	There's a lot of interesting echoes that you may or may not know
	about.  A good place to check is the Echolist which is where Zone
	1 moderators "register" their echoes to prevent theft (still happens)
	and to have their echo listed in a monthly listing that is published
	by the Echolist Keeper, Thom LaCosta.  Sometimes the listing is a
	little out-of-date, but in this day and age, things don't change as
	fast as they used to so a little outdatedness is okay.  Moderators
	must have other things to do besides keep their echo listings
	updated it seems.
	You can also take advantage of offline mail if you've never tried it.
	It's quite easy to use and you can take your mail with you if you're
	on the go.  My BBS offers both QWK and Blue Wave offline mail formats
	as do many, many other BBS systems.  There is a modern offline mail
	reader called MultiMail (http://multimail.sourceforge.net) that can
	handle QWK, Blue Wave and several other mail packet formats.  Oh,
	Multimail is free (it's open source) and available for Win32, DOS,
	OS/2, Mac OS X, Linux and BSD, so everyone should be covered there.
	I don't have much else to say except I'd like to wish everyone a
	happy Thanksgiving and a merry Christmas.  This is one of my favorite
	times of year, not just for the food but for the spirit of the
	As always, your comments are welcomed and your flames are not.  You
	can contact me via routed netmail (preferred) at 1:18/200.  If you
	don't have email access, just drop me an email at sean@nsbbs.info.  In
	either case, please include "Crusty Sysop" in the message's subject.
	Now if you'll excuse me, I have Christmas cards I need to start working
	on.  I've not sent them out in the past four years and I'm determined
	to break that losing streak...

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	!!!        G A Z E T T E   B B S   L I S T        !!!
	By bbslist @ filegate.net    
	Send updates, changes to address above or to janis @ filegate.net.
	System.......Prism BBS
	Software.....BBBS LiI v4.01 Flag #
	OS...........Linux (Gentoo)
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, 
	             and file areas.            
	             telnet access offers full features 
	             of the standard bbs such as doors,
	             qwkmail, BWmail,Files, etc.       
	             [web interface is limited really 
	             to reading messages and replying 
	             online, or downloading messages  
          	     in qwk packets, but not uploading
	             them], and file download access. 
	FTP:		 ftp.filegate.net, port 2121
    			 public access to file areas
	System.......Time Warp of the Future BBS
	Software.....sbbs 3.15a (very beta)
	OS...........win. (xp pro. sp3)
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, and file areas.
	Telnet.......time.synchro.net:24 or time.darktech.org:24
				 or timewarpfuture.dyndns.org:24
				 telnet access offers full features
				 of the standard bbs such as doors,
	           	 messages or file area etc.
				 Web interface is limited really
				 to reading messages and replying online, or 
				 downloading messages in qwk packets, but not 
				 uploading them, and file download access.  
				 SBBS files available.

	System.......Lionsden BBS
	OS...........Windows XP
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, and file areas.
				 telnet access offers full features
				 of the standard bbs such as doors,
				 qwkmail, Files, etc.
                 You will redirected to a menu where you can 
                 choose one of three sites.  The first one is 
                 private and requires PW to get into.
	FTP...........FTP://lionsden.darktech.org Files only


	System.......Christian Fellowship
	Software.....PCBoard 15.3
    OS...........Windows XP pro
	C/B Verify...Manually via email or voice 
				 usually within 24 hours.
	Access.......Read only until verified. Once
				 verified write access to Msg bases, file
				 areas, chat and doors/games.
    			 or cfbbs.no-ip.com


	System.......Lightning BBS
	Software.....Virtual Advanced
	OS...........Windows XP
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First call access to doors, files and
				 message reading.  Message posting requires
        	     Thanks to VADV-PHP you can access almost
  			     everything the BBS has to offer from the
			     web, with the exception of door games.


	System.......Roach Guts BBS 
	Software.....Maximus on Port 23 (primary)
	             Synchronet on Port 24 (temporary)
	OS...........Windows XP
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First call access to doors, files and
       			 message reading.  Message posting requires

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	T h e   F i d o G a z e t t e!   Volume III number  IX	November  2009
	Dr. DeBug Answers Your Questions!
	By dr.debug @ filegate.net
	To ask a question, send an email to dr.debug @ filegate.net or netmail
	to 1:261/38.
	Stupid DOS Tricks
	Command #1: By typing in tree on the command line, you can view all
	of the folders (not files) on the computer.  Pretty cool but then again
	pretty worthless.  A cool thing to know?  Well, I said this was stupid
	DOS tricks (g)
	Command #2: By typing in ipconfig you can view your default gateway
	ip address for your router.  

	Command #3: By typing in "format c:" you can delete all the information
	on your hard drive, if you want to start new.  You don't have to do
 	that btw, if you're switching to Linux.. the Linux install will take
	care of that.
	Command #4: By typing in netstat or nbtstat (both similar) you can
	view the TCP/IP network of your computer.
	Chat with Friends On Your Network:
	This trick will let you chat with the users in a network.
	Step 1) You need to have your friends IP Address and your Command
	Step 2) Open Notepad and copy and paste the code below:
	@echo off
	set /p n=User:
	set /p m=Message:
	net send %n% %m%
	Goto A
	Step 3) Now save this as “Instantchat.Bat”.
	Step 4) Open Command Prompt.
	Step 5) Drag this newly created bat file over to Command Prompt and
	press Enter.
	Step 6) You would then see something like this in the command prompt:
	Step 7) Now, type the IP Address of the computer you want to contact
	and press enter
	You will see something like this:
	Type your message and press Enter..

	Message: Hey there! How are you doing?

	Ctrl+C breaks out of the batch file :)
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	F  O  O  D      Even sysops have to eat!
	By Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
	Want to contribute something here?  Send your submission to fidogazette
	"at" filegate.net or email janis at filegate.net, or janis kracht at
	1:261/38 (binkp: filegate.net) and it will get published here in the
	next issue :)

    BASICS: Ketchup, Mustard and Mayonnaise
    It's easy and tastes so much better if you make your own :)
	Quick Ketchup (or Catsup, if you like (grin)
	3 cans Muir Glen Organic Tomato paste
	1/4 cup honey
	1/4 cup brown sugar
	1 tsp salt
	1/2 tsp cinnamon
	1/4 tsp+ cloves (I use more)
	pinch of cayenne
	pinch allspice
	pinch garlic powder
	3/4 cup organic cider vinegar
	Water as needed to reach the right consistency.
	Simmer this, stirring, for about five minutes. Remove from heat. Cool.
	Adjust seasonings. Flavor will improve on standing if you can wait…
	If you are in a real hurry you can forgo the simmering…Just mix it and
	eat it! If you like, you can mix some chipotle granules with it.	

	You can make zippy, zingy and easy mustards with truly unique flavors
	at home. It's easy!  Our favorite is Dijon.
	There are three types of mustard seeds generally used for cooking:
	black, brown and white (sometimes called yellow), which you can find at
	your local grocery store. Black and brown seeds are often used in
	hotter, more pungent mustards, while white seeds are usually used in
	the milder mustards favored in the United States. Mustard powder can be
	found in the herbs or bulk herbs aisle at your grocery store, or made
	by finely grinding mustard seeds using a mortar and pestle. 
	Using any type of mustard seed, the flavor is most potent when the
	prepared mustard is fresh, and becomes less intense over time. And
	while a basic mustard simply involves soaking tangy mustard powder (or
	ground mustard seeds) in vinegar, water or other liquid, once you start
	experimenting with herbs and other flavors, the possibilities are
	Honey Stout Mustard, from Fabulousfoods.com
	1 cup yellow mustard seeds
   	1 cup brown mustard seeds
	1 1/2 cups English stout (such as Guinness)
	3/4 cup cider vinegar
	1 small onion, finely minced
	4 cloves garlic, minced or pressed
	1 tbsp brown sugar
	4 tbsp honey
	1/3 cup mustard powder
	1 tsp allspice
	1/2 tsp turmeric
	1 tsp salt
	Soak mustard seeds in stout for at least 4 hours (add more stout if
	necessary to keep seeds covered). In a heavy saucepan, combine vinegar
	with the onion, garlic, brown sugar, honey, mustard powder, allspice,
	turmeric and salt. Simmer, uncovered, over medium heat until reduced by
	half (about 10 to 15 minutes). Pour reduced liquid through a strainer
	into mustard-and-stout mixture. Process in food processor or blender
	until coarsely ground. Return mixture to saucepan and cook over
	medium-low heat, stirring constantly for about 5 minutes or until
	slightly thickened (it will thicken more as it cools). Let cool and
	pack into sterilized jars and cover tightly. Store, refrigerated, for
	up to 2 years (although mustards do lose their potency over time).
	Yields 3 1/2 cups.

	Dijon Mustard
	2 c. dry white wine
	1 large onion, chopped
	2 cloves garlic, minced
	4 oz dry mustard
	2 Tbsp. honey
	1 Tbsp. vegetable oil
	2 tsp. salt
	few drops Tobasco sauce
	Combine wine, onion, and garlic in a saucepan: heat to boiling.
	Lower heat: simmer for 5 minutes.
	Pour mixture into a bowl: cool. Strain into dry mustard in a saucepan,
    beating constantly with a wire whip.
    Blend oil, honey, salt and red pepper sauce into mixture.
	Heat slowly, stirring constantly, until mixture thickens: cool.
	Place in a container (not metal): cover. Chill at least 2 days to blend
	Variations: After mustard thickens and is removed from heat, add either
	1 Tbsp. tomato paste, or 1 tsp. leaf tarragon, or 1 Tbsp. grated orange

    Blender Mayonnaise
    This recipe saves your whisking arm.
    Have all ingredients at room temperature.    
	1 egg, raw
	1 teaspoon mustard powder
	1 teaspoon salt
	1 teaspoon white sugar
	1/8 teaspoon cayenne pepper
	1/4 cup olive oil or vegetable oil
    1 cup vegetable oil
    1 juice of 1 lemon, or 3 tablespoons white vinegar

    Place egg in blender jar with mustard power, salt, sugar and cayenne
    pepper and 1/4 cup olive oil.  Blend until mixed.  With top of blender
    on, and blender-top center "plug" removed, turn blender on high speed. 
    When mixed well, add the in lemon juice.  Drizzle in very slowly 1 cup
    of vegetable oil.  If you add to much at a time, the mayonnaise will
    not emulsify.  You may have to stir down the mayonnaise as it thickens.
    You don't have to have a blender to make this, but it's definitely
    easier on your arm if you do :)  You can use a whisk and a stainless
    steel or glass bowl.
    Whisk Method:
	In a glass bowl, whisk together egg  and dry ingredients. Add lemon
    juice then thoroughly whisk into the egg mixture.  Start whisking
    briskly, then start adding the oil a few drops at a time until the
    liquid seems to thicken and lighten a bit.  Once you reach that point
    you can relax your arm a little (but just a little) and increase the
    oil flow to a constant (albeit thin) stream.  Continue whisking until
    all of the oil is incorporated.  Leave at room temperature for 1 to 2
    hours then refrigerate for up to 1 week.
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    Where to Send Your Articles

    Unlike most editors, I surely do not  mind running my mouth when
    there is a sparcity of articles for the 'zine.  I'd MUCH rather
    you sent in material but I think until someone starts a
    discussion you feel like commenting about, you evil dullards
    (just kidding!!!) will no doubt complain about "no issues" (grin)
    So I will fill these issues with my meanderings and thoughts and
    hopefully we will grow into something of consequence here :)
    Don't be offended.. write an article!

    If you WOULD like to submit an article and prove me wrong about
    the dullard aspect of you guys and gals (bg), feel free to drop
    your article off at:

    By email attach to address: janis @ filegate.net Fidonet attach: Janis
    Kracht at 1:261/38 
    Modem: 607-655-5652 
    1:261/100 filegate.net port 24555
    via binkp or telnet mailer 
    (don't send articles as routed attaches, send them direct to filegate.net).
    Standard binkp port only supports BinkP (24554).

    Give it a title, sign your name and network address if you have
    one and send it along!

    Don't worry about the format, I can take anything you send me
    and mutilate it further as you can see above.  Linux is nice
    that way (g).  Spell checking your own work will help though
    (something I'm typically guilty of (g).

     To send a question to Dr. Debug, email a question to
     dr.debug @ filegate.net or post in the fidogazette echo! :)

     To send a listing to the fidogazette internet bbs list, send your
     bbs listing to bbslist @ filegate.net or post it in the fidogazette
     echo!  :)

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