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    T h e   F i d o G a z e t t e!    Volume III number III    May    2009
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    Editorial:..................................................(1) 
     New Members/In the Works/Returning Members.................(2)
     The Slightly Crusty Sysop..................................(3)     
     The Old School Toolbox: Bots Part 3........................(4)
     FidoGazette BBS List.......................................(5)
     Dr.Debug Answers Your Questions............................(6)
     A hardy Net 261 Welcome....................................(7)
     Food.......................................................(7)
     The New Age Haunts Some....................................(8)
     Info (Where to Send Articles)..............................(9)
    
    
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    T h e   F i d o G a z e t t e!    Volume III number IV   June  2009
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    Editorial
    =========
    
    Thanks to two people who are now contributing here and will be on
    a monthly basis, we have a crew of three writers now. That is
    something to me and I'm incredibly thankful to you fellows.

    Richard Webb is continuing his "ToolBox Series with Part #3", and
    this month Sean Dennis returns to the Gazette with his own
    by-line and column, see "Slightly Crusty SysOp", which I think is
    fantastic.  I may not always agree with him but we agree often
    enough I think (smile) and I'm really happy to see him involved
    again!  Who knows..  maybe I'll call his house when he's at work
    and get Maura involved when he's not looking (gd&r)
      
    Thanks to both of you, greatly appreciated!

    The GamesCorner had to take a break from including the Crossword
    Puzzle this month.. Didn't have the time to do the graphics for
    this issue.  The puzzle is done though so it will be faster or
    the next issue :) 



  
  
    
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    T h e   F i d o G a z e t t e!    Volume III number IV June  2009
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    New & Returning Members
    =======================
    By Janis Kracht
    

    New SysOps -- Welcome to Fidonet!
    =================================  
    
    No apps received.
    

    In the Works:
    =============
    
    Region 11: Gordon Meyer      

    =================================

    Returning SysOps - Welcome Back!
    ================================
    Region 13: Scott Knapp  
    Region 18: Michael Aurelio
    



                    The Slightly Crusty Sysop
                    By Sean Dennis, 1:18/200

    I guess I should introduce myself if you don't know who I am
    already.  I'm Sean Dennis, the original editor of the FidoGazette
    and a longtime (over a decade now) Fidonet sysop.  I'm also a
    former R11C.  As the former FidoGazette editor, I was
    castigated by several of the Fidonet "elite" by daring to create
    an actual, useful newsletter for Fidonet instead of the empty and
    pathetic shell that Fidonews is now due to anti-American views of
    the uber-liberal and arrogant Zone 2 sysops.  Not all Z2 sysops
    are complete jackasses, but it seems the few that are tend to be
    like a zit on your face on prom night: you know it's there, you
    want to take care of it, but you dare not do it lest someone else
    finds out and makes fun of you for doing so.  So, I am back
    involved peripherally with the FidoGazette, providing an opinion
    column for the ol' FG, just because I can.


    As you can see, I'm quite opinionated, but I try to be fair with
    my opinions- meaning I treat everyone equally.  My goal in this
    column is to bring Fidonet related issues to light and issues
    that are related to Fidonet, be it socially, politically,
    technically or round-about-ly.


    I'd like to thank the current editor of the FG, Janis Kracht, for
    letting me have a column in this fine publication (not that I'm
    biased or anything).


    The current issue that I'd like to poke a stick at is Fidonet's
    slow but eventual death due to the cancer within.  As you can see
    by my rather blunt views above, perhaps a cloud of an idea may
    begin to form about the "cancer" I speak of.  The Internet didn't
    kill Fidonet as Richard Webb so succinctly put it - Fidonet
    killed itself with its members' arrogance, pedantic ways and
    general rudeness.


    I've talked to several young and up-and-coming sysops who say
    they will never, ever join Fidonet.  Why?  Because Fidonet has a
    reputation for being a nasty place to be - unfriendly, cold and
    generally unpleasant.  Now those of us who have been around in
    Fidonet for some time know that is not always the case, but it
    seems that we, Fidonet, have cultivated a maelstrom of
    unpleasantness that has seeped outside of the network and
    tarnished our collective reputation.


    If you've ever taken a look to see inside the FN_SYSOP and
    FIDONEWS echoes, you can see what I talk about.  It's a culture
    war in those echoes and well, folks, the writing's on the wall --
    if we don't change the pedantic and inane ways of some of the
    Fidonet "administration" as well as get rid of the undesired
    trash in Fidonet, someone's gonna have to turn the light off
    after everyone's gone.


    A lot of the unpleasant people have left Fidonet, but there are
    still quite a few -- more than our fair share's worth -- pedants
    hanging around.  I'm not going to name names, of course, but you
    know who I'm talking about.  Of course, if you talk to some
    people, I should be out of Fidonet, but hey, after twelve years,
    I really don't care what some people think.  I seem to have
    plenty of Fidonet-friends in high and low places and I've learned
    to avoid such cesspools of filth (read: particular echoes). 
    Seems to make my time reading mail a lot nicer too knowing that
    some dimwit isn't going to try to shove his verbal masturbation
    on me.


    But for all the nastiness, there are some bright spots in
    Fidonet.  I know of several echoes that are pleasant,
    light-hearted and still a valuable place to gather online.  Yes,
    Fidonet (and BBSing in general) doesn't offer the "instant
    gratification" that a lot of the younger Internet-weaned
    generation wants, but in a lot of ways, that's better.  These
    kids wouldn't know their head from a hole in the ground...and
    we've got enough of those grown-up kids polluting our echoes as
    it is.


    What can we do about this cancer creeping in, killing Fidonet? 
    Some suggestions:


      * Act our age, not our shoe size.
      * Remember the old saying "insert foot, echo internationally".
      * Agree to disagree.  It's hard -- especially for me -- but it's 
        got to be done if we're going to get along.
      * Remember that Fidonet is an exercise in anarchy and not in an 
        oligarchy.
      * Together we stand, divided we fall, alone we make fools of 
        ourselves.
      * Prove to the next generation of sysops that Fidonet is a good
        place to be and that it is worthy of their care and attention
        so it can live on for another quarter-century.
      * Show that the Internet is not the only place for social gathering
        that can be enjoyable.

    
    Anyhow, just my thoughts on this subject.  If you'd like to give
    me your thoughts, please netmail me at 1:18/200 (preferred) or
    email me at sean@nsbbs.info with the subject of "Crusty
    Feedback".


    Oh...the column name?  Well, it comes from the fact that as I've
    gotten older, I've begun to get a little crusty: more  anti-social,
    more cynical and generally more of a malcontent with people.  I don't
    really hate people -- I just think that people think of themselves 
    too much and don't realize how they look in other people's eyes.


    Standard disclaimer: the views expressed in this column are of
    me, Sean Dennis, and not of the FidoGazette, its editorial staff
    nor anyone else (like anyone really would want to share the same
    views as me, right?).  I assume all responsibility for screwing
    up facts, stretching the story a bit or just telling it like it
    is.


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                    The Old School Toolbox
                     By Richard Webb, 1:116/901
     
                        Bots, Pt III.


    In  this  installment  we'll  look  at  those  that  generate
    messages automatically. This is usually a sysop's first look at
    automation, other than areafix and the standard file request
    we've all come to know and appreciate.


    So, who needs additional automation over and above  that
    provided by their favorite ftn mail processing? THe busy sysop
    that isn't around to check his board as often as he'd like to
    validate new users.  THe echo moderator might wish to send
    updates to the echolist or other echo listing database, as well
    as post rules in the echo.


    I have a good fidonet friend who is an echo moderator. HE swears
    he'll never resort to automation to update his echo's listing
    with the echolist, and won't use it to post rules or send
    messages.  HE feels that there are enough fidonet systems just
    chugging along on autopilot out there and his point is valid.
    YEt, for some of us, automation serves many purposes. SOme of the
    most common are:

    Posting statistics on a regular basis to a local or echomail
    area;

    Posting announcements or bulletins;

    Posting captured output of diagnostic or maintenance processes
    for later review.


    First  let  me  give  you a glimpse of how I use them, then we'll
    talk about some of the tools I use, and which tools I like for
    given applications.


    Of  course  I  send  my  updates  to  the  echolist without even
    being present. THey go out bright and early on the appointed day
    while I'm still snug in my bed. NO reminder needed, etc.


    I'm  involved  in  a ham radio network which requires that net
    control stations turn in monthly reports of the hours they worked
    controlling the net, whom they handed off to, etc. My automation
    happily parses my station log files and sends said report to the
    net manager via email on the first day of each month, again while
    I'm tucked in my bed.


    I  moderate  four  echoes.  All  four  see rules postings on a
    regular basis, and all of these are done via automation. IF my
    machine saw an unscheduled reboot that indicates a power outage a
    message is sent to me. Also, when I'm away from home my system
    sends a couple of friends messages letting them know it's still
    alive and kicking. ONe friend knows that if I'm out of town and
    he doesn't see messages for two or three days he's to call one of
    two or three phone numbers and ask the party on the other end to
    please check out Richard's house.


    If you recall in the first part of this series I discussed some
    of my automatic response features that I've set up to run from
    artware's netmgr. ONe I mentioned was my nodelist lookup tool,
    good for that echo moderator who isn't a fidonet sysop (grin).
    THe nodelist lookup tool requires one of these automatic message
    posters to return the actual results to the requester. This is
    because the nodelist lookup batch could not run on a command
    shell from netmgr, as this batch requires copious use of
    environment variables, a lost resource to later windows users.
    Hence, the nodelist lookup requires that the batch which netmgr
    invokes on a command shell set up the autoposter to return the
    message to the proper individual at the right address.

    There were many tools developed back in the halcyon days of
    fidonet to accomplish automatic posting of messages. Some were
    bundled in with software developed for other purposes.  OThers
    were stand alone programs designed specifically for this purpose.
    IN this installment of the toolbox we'll have a look at message
    posters only.


    All of these have one feature in common. THis is the ability  to
    post any text file. some impose size limitations, and others have
    further limitations. FOr my applications I've found myself using
    more than one in the past.


    Just  as  your  tool  kit  should  contain  a  variety of
    wrenches and screwdrivers I've found that some autoposting tools
    are better suited to certain applications.  SUre, you can use one
    of those adjustable wrenches for just about any nut, but if
    you're not careful with them or the vise grip type tools you can
    do damage to the fastener you're working with. HEnce, the proper
    wrench is always a better fit.


    In my earliest days as a fidonet sysop I discovered Harvey
    Parisien's robot, available from many systems still as
    robot600.zip which is quite versatile. Harvey's robot had several
    nice features, and I'd already registered my copy of professional
    point, so I became conversant with it fairly quickly. THe robot
    worked from standard text files and came with plenty of samples
    to show one how to utilize it.


    Harvey's  robot  required  you  to  fire  packets into your
    inbound or outbound directory however. IF you wanted the messages
    to show up in your message bases you would need to fire them into
    your inbound directory and show an address that your mail tosser
    would accept.  I configured some dummy points in my private
    addition to the nodelist just for this purpose, and away we went.


    I soon figured out some of the  limitations  however.  Harvey's
    robot works nicely with netmail and echomail, but local message
    areas on the bbs couldn't be touched by it without some kludging.
    Also, you had to build a robot configuration file for every job
    that you might want to use an autoposter for.


    Still I lumbered along in all my days of fidonet, using  netmgr
    masks to toss inbound netmail from the robot to local message
    areas on the bbs when necessary. Still, I found myself with a
    whole directory of these little 2-4 line .h files.


    To  make  matters  worse, my main batch file became quite
    unwieldy for days such as the first of the month with all these
    firings of the robot, the invocation of pktdate to fix y2k
    problems in Harvey's robot, and then an import round from my mail
    processor.  THen because some of this was email through the gate
    and netmail I'd want netmgr to strip off the point address, so
    then the mail processor did a round of exporting, lather rinse
    repeat. ITs biggest weakness, and hence the unwieldy batch files
    was the fact that one couldn't use a different "from" name for
    every message. THOse little robot scripts all use the same "from"
    name in every message they generate.  want a different "from"
    then build another robot script.


    When  I  was  first  getting  hooked  up  as  a fido sysop again
    I was replacing many things I'd lost in hurricane Katrina,
    including just about all of the software I used in the glory days
    of my bbs activity.  


    A  friend of mine kindly sent me a copy of Harvey's robot, and
    another nifty little thing called postit.


    Being the type that isn't up for a lot of adventure when it
    comes to getting computer stuff working I went with the devil I
    knew when setting up my system. Harvey's robot dutifully posted
    rules in the echoes I moderate; sent out echolist updates which
    my processor dutifully killed after sending and life was good,
    except for those unwieldy batch files. MORe stuff got added (the
    radio network reports mentioned above among them) and my first of
    the month section of the batch file now required its own batch
    file.  even with the simplification offered by postit the darned
    thing is still pretty big. to accomplish everything that I
    require on the first of the month there are nearly 700 lines,
    counting remarks. IT was half again as big before I decided to
    give postit a spin.


    The  "from"  name  limitation  was what I bumped up against first
    when looking at the jobs I wanted done by an autoposter.  IT was
    time to take a serious look at other tools. Before I got to
    postit I had decided to have another look for something to handle
    areafix functionality for me. Back in my busy system days I'd
    used squalid as my areafix as it was the only one totally squish
    compatible, but it had some limitations. NO autoforwarding of
    requests, and rather bare bones in other ways. SO, I had a look
    at sqafix.


    Bundled with sqafix was a little utility called sendmsg which was
    the author's way of providing for autoforwarding of requests
    before such functionality was complete within the program itself.
    IT allowed me to post to local areas as well, handled squish
    format message bases directly, but still had some limitations.


    Horses for courses: THe little sendmsg  utility  bundled  with
    sqafix didn't do origin lines properly for echomail, and this was
    a problem for me. YEs I know, squish is supposed to take care of
    that little detail, but I don't find it reliably picking up on
    messages that do not have a valid origin line. THe message
    posting functionality built into artware's netmgr seems to
    truncate larger messages, and was not suitable for multipart
    postings.So, back to the drawing board.  IN addition to the from
    limitation of Harvey's Robot there's also the problem of y2k
    compatibility. Easily fixed with pktdate, but we were trying to
    streamline the batch files, part of what this whole exercise was
    about.


    So, another look at postits docs. Hmmm, command line  syntax
    examples didn't look too cumbersome, so I gave it a test spin on
    a couple of my local areas. I liked the fact that it supports
    *.msg, squish jam or Hudson message bases directly. I'd seen
    enough of these things that supported *.msg and maybe one other
    message base format, but this one supported most of the major
    players in the message base format game. Even though I wasn't
    planning on changing message base types, it was nice to know I
    had the option to continue using the same tools should I decide
    to for other reasons.


    Then I discovered its best feature for the  way  I  work. 
    INstead of invoking postit multiple times as would be required on
    the first of the month, just put all those commands in one file,
    invoke postit once.  YEs, this required registration, but a $10
    bill for something that useful isn't much. SO off went a check
    for ten bucks.


    The robot only allowed one from field for all the messages  it
    posted during that invocation, whereas postit allowed me to
    define a separate from and "to" field for each. I could have a
    bulk file set up to post a message to the echolist showing my
    name in the "from:" field, "echo moderator" in the rules posting,
    "Joe sysop" in another if I chose, etc. RIght up my alley!Even
    better, custom origin lines are supported!


    Even better yet, no product brag line. YEs you can look at the
    usually hidden control lines and find out which software was used
    to post a message, but there are times I'd as soon use something
    to respond or provide information where I could easily just post
    an already created text file.  Now you're asking yourself why I
    just don't open the required text file with my favorite text
    editor and do a straight reply, pasting the text into said reply.
    Hmmm, I know I've got the file with the info you asked for, but
    first I've gotta find it.  But, now that I've located that
    blasted file I don't have time to open my message reader, find
    your message, paste the text, etc. But, I recall your name and
    fido address, or made a handy note. SO, while I recall the path
    to that file, I bang out a command line for my autoposter causing
    a message to be generated going back to you. The message goes
    into the proper area and is scanned out next time, and I'm off to
    do whatever else I need to accomplish. IF on the other hand I do
    one of those "I'll have to take care of sending that when I get
    back home things I might forget, and you'll wonder after a day or
    two if I am ignoring you or something even more unflattering.


    Why do I wish to post an already created text file?  Lots  of
    reasons may occur to you. Alright, another example. I get
    bulletins from the American RAdio relay league, and a variety of
    other ham radio related electroniic publications which I post to
    relevant echoes. Some of them need to be broken into parts to
    accomodate the variety of echomail processors in use. Creating
    robot scripts depending on how many parts the publication
    required was cumbersome when writing batch files.  A simpler
    method was needed, with provisions to inform me that the
    publication in question required more parts than I provided for,
    and therefore was not posted, and the resulting files created not
    deleted.


    So,  after soldiering on with the tools I knew how to use for
    awhile I thought it was high time to have a look at something
    else and see if it met my needs.  Another friendly fidonet sysop
    and ham radio aficionado could forward me some items I can't
    access from the web at another email account, but he found
    preparing them for transmission as echomail cumbersome. I agreed
    to prepare them for transmission as echomail if he'd be willing
    to send along those I couldn't access. Suddenly my comfort zone
    of the familiar and known had to be invaded, for it was time to
    try something new.


    Yes,  I still use the robot for some posting chores, and the
    automatic posting facilities in netmgr for others. BUt, it seems
    I've found my autoposting version of the adjustable wrench,
    finally after years of looking. SO, we've had a good look at some
    common fidonet bots.  NExt time, we'll have a look at fidonet
    mailer types, how they differ and how they handle traffic and
    other housekeeping.


    Upcoming:  Want  to  increase  your  wireless  networking  range? 
    Yes VIrginia, it's old school, it's radio! THink before you part
    with your $$$ and try a couple of experiments first!  Maybe
    you'll see some benefits, and maybe you won't.  Free upgrades are
    always the best upgrades, so give these a try first.


   
             
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	!!!        G A Z E T T E   B B S   L I S T        !!!
	=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
	By bbslist @ filegate.net    
    	
	Send updates, changes to address above or to janis @
	filegate.net.
    	      
	System.......Prism BBS
	FidoAddress..1:261/38
	Phone........607-655-5652
	Software.....BBBS LiI Flag
	OS...........Linux (Gentoo)
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, 
	             and file areas.            
	Telnet.......filegate.net
	             telnet access offers full features 
	             of the standard bbs such as doors,
	             qwkmail, BWmail,Files, etc.       
	www:.........http:/www.filegate.net:8080/bbbs
	             [web interface is limited really 
	             to reading messages and replying 
	             online, or downloading messages  
        	     in qwk packets, but not uploading
	             them], and file download access. 
	=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
      
	System.......Time Warp of the Future BBS
	FidoAddress..1:14/400
	Phone........none
	Software.....sbbs 3.15a (very beta)
	OS...........win. (xp pro. sp3)
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, and file areas.
	Telnet.......time.synchro.net:24 or time.darktech.org:24
	             or timewarpfuture.dyndns.org:24
	             telnet access offers full features
        	     of the standard bbs such as doors,
	             messages or file area etc.
	www:.........http://time.synchro.net:81
        	     Web interface is limited really
	             to reading messages and replying online, or 
        	     downloading messages in qwk packets, but not 
	             uploading them, and file download access.  
	 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
      
	System.......Lionsden BBS
	FidoAddress..1:224/303
	Phone........613-392-8896
	Software.....Sunchronet
	OS...........Windows XP
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, and file areas.
	Telnet.......lionsden.darktech.org
		     telnet access offers full features
    		     of the standard bbs such as doors,
    		     qwkmail, Files, etc.
        www:.........http:/www.lionsden.darktech.org
                     You will redirected to a menu where you can 
                     choose one of three sites.  The first one is 
                     private and requires PW to get into.
        FTP..........FTP://lionsden.darktech.org Files only

	=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

	System.......Christian Fellowship
	FidoAddress..1:266/512
	Phone........1-856-933-7096
	Software.....PCBoard 15.3
        OS...........Windows XP pro
	C/B Verify...Manually via email or voice 
	             usually within 24 hours.
        Access.......Read only
                     until verified. Once
                     verified write access
                     to Msg bases, file
                     areas, chat and
                     doors/games.
                     Telnet.......cfbbs.dtdns.net
                     or cfbbs.no-ip.com

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    Dr. DeBug Answers Your Questions!
    =================================
    By dr.debug @ filegate.net      
    


    What is a File Request?
    =======================
        
    A file request is a special type of netmail that allows you to
    ask another Fidonet system for a file that system has in it's
    filebase archive.  Your mailer then picks up the file you asked
    for and  delivers it to your system.  
    
    If the system you are calling doesn't have the file you are
    asking for, you will get an error message explaining that.  If
    there is some other problem (not enough time before an event, not
    enough security, it's during ZMH, you need certain privileges for
    that file, etc.) you will get a response explaining the problem
    as well.

    
    How to do it:
    ============ 

    You send a message to the SysOp of the BBS who has the file, with
    the name of the file you want in the Subject line, but you turn
    on the FREQ bit of the message.  That is what tells his/her
    mailer to send you the file in the subject line.  Different BBS
    programs and mailers may do this a bit differently, but
    essentially, they all have you set some type of "freq" bit or
    flag so that the receiving system automatically knows that the
    information you are sending in your netmail message is a 


    
       "request for a file to  go from your system to mine please"
      


    For instance, BBBS's mailer has you set the freq bit in a netmail
    message in the Subj: line by prefacing the Subject: with the
    character "&<".  
    


    Let's say I want to file request a file from Sean  Dennis's
    system. A file request from my system to Sean Dennis's system
    would look like this: 

   
           To: Sean Dennis 
           Subject: &< 1:18/200 FILES 

    
    When I send this message to Sean's system, his system will
    respond with a file that contains a list of the downloadable
    archives on his system _if his system is set up to allow file
    requests_.  Some systems may not be set up to do so, so you
    should check first.  Also the name of the file may really be
    named allfiles.zip, or files.zip, so I'm counting on his mailer
    using the magic name of FILES.

           
    FILES is the magic name normally used by SysOps in Fidonet for 
    the list of all downloadable archives - so if you want to know 
    what files a SysOp has, try freqing FILES. If you get an error 
    message, check the error message out, because the error message
    will often tell you what MAGIC names the sysop uses for files
    like the "allfiles" list.

    So now you have the file list, you can peruse it at your leisure
    and find that file you needed for your door tournament, etc. :)

    Be prepared for a large file though.. some allfiles lists can be
    large.  The one at PRISM  at one time reached 8M.. right
    now it is at 3.7M because of drive crash a long time ago (grin).
    
    Some systems may require a password for a particular file or
    directory.  To specify the password for a FrontDoor System, you
    would do it like this:  
    
    To: Sysop
    Subj: ZanyFile.zip ! mypassword
    
    ( filename (space) and a '!' character on the subject line )
    
    For BinkleyTerm (this is not BinkD, remember):
    Press Alt-G from the Binkleyterm screen.  It will ask you
    "address to get from", then file to get, password to use.
    
    Squish tosser is similar to all of the above:
    SQUISH GET FILE.ZIP!MYPWD 1:261/38

    So check your bbs or mailer's documentation - it's probably there
    and easy to do.    
    
    Regards,
    Doc
         
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                     A hardy Net 261 Welcome
                     Michael Luko, 1:261/0
                     
        As temporary NC for net 261, I proudly and hardily welcome
        Scott Brown from Westminster, MD and the members of his BBS,
        The Realms of Blue, to Fidonet 261.


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    F  O  O  D      Even sysops have to eat!
    -=-=-=-=-=-
         
    By Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
     
    This is another tiramisu - a bit different than the one I made
    for the Fidonet Cooking Echo picnic.  Mine was more authentic,
    but this one will be easier to find ingredients to make it. One
    of my relatives in New Jersey sent me this recipe.  I could say
    something, but I won't Lol :) Hey I was born in Jersey so stop
    thinking what you are thinking :) :)

    
    Mickalena's Tiramisu
    Serves 10-12 people.    
    
    1 package ladyfingers
    6 eggs,, separated
    1/2 pint plus 1 Tablespoon heavy cream
    1/2 cup sugar
    1 teaspoon vanilla or almond extract
    1 cup strong black coffee
    1 square baking chocolate, grated into curls with large side of
    grater

    
    Place ladyfingers in a square dish, 13 inches X  9 inches, or 11
    inches X 13 inches 
    
    Soak ladyfingers with coffee.  Beat egg yolks for 5     minutes,
    gradually adding the sugar. The egg yolks should look lemony in
    color.

    Beat the heavy cream until stiff, and then fold into the egg yolk
    and sugar mixture.
    
    In a separate bowl, beat the egg whites until stiff.  Carefully
    fold the egg whites into the whipped cream mixture.  Add vanilla
    or almond extract and stir gently.
    
    Cover the lady fingers with this mixture.  Cover with tin foil
    and refrigerate 2 hours. Sprinkle with chocolate curls, and
    serve.

  
    
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                    The New Age Haunts Some
                    By Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
         
    In 1990, Fidonet's Randy Bush arranged to have the K12
    educational network incorporated into Fidonet.  
    
    The K12 Network's affiliation with Fidonet offered worldwide
    telecommunications for teachers, students and schools that were
    not able to access the internet because of constrained budgets,
    or because they lacked technical expertise to implement
    higher-level access to existing telecommunications networks.  

    Using our FTN technology, schools were able to use a penpal
    program to "promoting global awareness" and soon many schools
    were part of the K12 network.

    The K12 Network left Fidonet many many years ago.  If I had to
    guess, I would say it was probably around 1995 or so.
     
    And here we are in the present. 
     
    But what happened to all those posts after the K12 network left? 
    Are they gone?  Did they get dumped in the bit-bucket?  You might
    be surprised at the answer and give thought to anything you post
    on the internet, anywhere.
    
    A few weeks ago, a young woman contacted me asking for help,
    because some _17_ years ago, at the age of 11, she had posted on
    the K12 network as part of the pen pal program.  She'd been at
    her uncle's house way back then, and had been offered the use of
    the computer.  
    
    Now those posts show up with her name and a funny fidonet node
    number when she searches for her name on Google, and she'd need
    the correct "user name and password" to remove them according to
    Google.  
   
    It was a harmless day of fun at her uncle's house, she
    remembers:
    
    "Here, type something on this machine, and people will type back
    to you." he'd said to her.

  
    She told me how she remembers now how amazed she was then at this
    machine -  She remembered thinking, "People did indeed respond!
    You could make friends and 'talk'"

    So she wrote a note to a "penpal".  She told her new friend her
    name, her city, her brother's name, where they lived and her
    hobbies and some other personal information.  She forgot about
    it.. she was 11 - Who thinks what you type to a penpal!
    
    Now -  remember when all those search engine wars were going on? 
   
    Bits and bytes were flying left and right as one service vied for
    superiority over another with better content.. and content meant
    buying archives...  archives of what? you know it.. usenet.. which
    is where the K12 network stayed after they left Fidonet.

    And of course who ended up with usenet and K12, but GOOGLE.. 
    
    Should anyone google for this young lady's name, chances are
    quite a bit of personal information will be made publicly
    available.  This is not something she is very comfortable with.
    
    And so, now and  theoretically, forever, this young lady's
    personal information will be on Google's groups and plainly
    "available".  She is lucky however, being Canadian.  She at least
    has a Privacy Commisioner where she lives, who may be able to
    convince Google to remove the information because she was so
    young when she entered the information.
    
    It strikes me how much information we haphazardly enter into the
    'infobalm'. People may not realize that places like FaceBook and
    other similar 'social networking spots' may soon become the next
    'collection' points - that is if they are not already - for
    search engines and commercial marketing tools and ploys.  

    All of this brings to mind the words someone said to me long
    ago (in about 1992 as I was taking over the PDN FDN), "Leave the
    smallest electronic footprint you can".  

    It was my husband who said that to me then, and he was abolutely
    right.


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    INFO:
    Where to Send Your Articles

    Unlike most editors, I surely do not  mind running my mouth when
    there is a sparcity of articles for the 'zine.  I'd MUCH rather
    you sent in material but I think until someone starts a
    discussion you feel like commenting about, you evil dullards
    (just kidding!!!) will no doubt complain about "no issues" (grin)
    So I will fill these issues with my meanderings and thoughts and
    hopefully we will grow into something of consequence here :)
    Don't be offended.. write an article!

    If you WOULD like to submit an article and prove me wrong about
    the dullard aspect of you guys and gals (bg), feel free to drop
    your article off at:

    By email attach to address: janis @ filegate.net
    Fidonet attach: Janis Kracht 1:261/38 Modem: 607-655-5652


                   1:261/100 filegate.net via telnet mailer
                   filegate.net via binkp mailer (don't send 
                   articles as routed attaches, send them
                   direct to filegate.net).

    Give it a title, sign your name and network address if you have
    one and send it along!

    Don't worry about the format, I can take anything you send me
    and mutilate it further as you can see above.  Linux is nice
    that way (g).  Spell checking your own work will help though
    (something I'm typically guilty of (g)).


     To send a question to Dr. Debug, email a question to
     dr.debug @ filegate.net or post in the fidogazette echo! :)

     To send a listing to the fidogazette internet bbs list, send your
     bbs listing to bbslist @ filegate.net or post it in the fidogazette
     echo!  :)

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