======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XII December, 2010 ======================================================================= +--------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | .----------------------. | dr.debug: dr.debug @ filegate.net | | | A monthly E-Zine | | bbslists: bbslists @ filegate.net | | | published by Fidonet | | articles: fidogazette @ filegate.net| | | to promote BBSing | +------------------------------------------+ | | ____________. | | | | / __ | "Anyone who has never made a mistake | | | / / \ | has never tried anything new." | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Albert Einstein | | \_______\(_| /_) | | | \@/ \ | Got Something To Say? | | .---.\ _ | Say it in the | | (jk) _ |usb| \ \\ | =The FidoGazette= | | / | .___. \ ))| | | / | /_ | / \// | Editor: Janis Kracht | | |___| // || _\ / | janis @ filegate . net | | .--`-. (_|(_|(____/ | janis kracht 1:261/38 | | |____| (jm) | | +--------------------------+------------------------------------------+ ======================================================================= ==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=Contents=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ======================================================================= Contents...................................................(i) Editorial..................................................(1) Ol' WDB: Past Fidonews Editor, and a Great Friend, Passes (2) Notes From the Z1C.........................................(3) The Old School Toolbox: It's About Communication...........(4) Dr.Debug...................................................(5) Food.......................................................(6) New UPDATED! Fidonet Compatible Software List BBS/Mailers/Utilities List...............................(7) FidoGazette BBS List.......................................(8) e-Ministries by Jon Justvig................................(9) Info (Where to Send Articles)..............................(10) Page i ======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XII December, 2010 ======================================================================= Editorial ========= Warren D. Bonner, who was a past Editor of Fidonews left this world on November, 17th, 2010 - What a terrible loss to his family and to all who knew this wonderful man's gentle nature. Many of us will remember Warren's kind and cheerful attitude and quick witty mind, and miss him, that is for sure. I offer our heartfelt condolences to his family but that doesn't seem enough. Please see information in the next article if you'd like to send condolences to his family. I've put together several clips of Warren's WWII biography in my article in this issue, "Ol' WDB: Past Fidonews Editor, and a Great Friend, Passes". He described his life and the history of his ship, The Mighty "E"astwind for all. I wish my Dad had done so as well with his ship in WWII, The Quincy. Failing that, Warren's history in his book provides a wonderful insight into that era. You can pick up a copy of his ebook here, see info in the article. === Sadly, there has been plenty of Fidonet nonsense going on in the FTSC_PUBLIC echo even though the election has ended. R16C, Jerry Schwartz published a comment in the FTSC echo, but obviously that was barely noticed by some. Richard follows up on that comment in his ToolBox article in this issue. While this kind of argumentation on in that echo is nothing new to some of us - we've grown weary, or at least I do, of the constant childish degrading of some members of Fidonet who are part of the FTSC. FTSC committee members are people who are willing to give their time to help fidonet function while working in the background, updating and writing the technical specs of current practice. At at time when everyone should be happy that we have good and knowledgeable SysOps volunteering to work for all of us via the FTSC, there are some in that echo who it would seem cannot deal with the idea of some new members joining because THEY think the new members may be "technically incompetant". All based on one errant netmail.. The gist of their complaint is that a newly elected member to the FTSC may not have had his GoldEd program configured correctly to allow for proper routing of International netmail.. What's important, I think is that we don't need this kind of attitude towards a newly elected member - it certainly isn't going to encourage others to run for this essentially non-rewarding position. =+= Page 1 ======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XII December, 2010 ======================================================================= Ol' WDB: Past Fidonews Editor, and a Great Friend, Passes By Janis Kracht, 1:261/38 From Warren Bonner's family (Courtesy of Jim White, Thanks Jim!) ================================================================== Dear Friends and Loved Ones of Ol' WDB, For many years you have been receiving advice, jokes, rhymes and stories from this address. Today we would ask that you celebrate the life and love you shared with Warren Debrell Bonner who passed away yesterday, November 17, 2010. He has gone to join those in his family who have passed before him. We ask that you respect the wishes of the family and refrain from phone calls during this time. Please feel free to e-mail comments to this e-mail address and we will collect them for Jan. Please celebrate his Life....and all the joy he brought to so many during his 85 years with us. Thank you for your kind thoughts. In lieu of flowers, a donation may be made to: Disabled American Veterans P.O. Box 14301 Cincinnati, OH 45250-0301 Attn: Gift Processing The Bonner Home 222 North Shasta Orange CA, 92869 ================================================================== Warren also wrote a fantastic historical document, detailing the part he, his ship, and his crew members played in the North Atlantic Campaign of World War II. You can pick up the entire ebook here: http://www.filegate.net/eastwind.pdf I offer you just some clips from his book, and in them you can see the gentleman he was, and what a great person he was. Thank you, Warren, for letting us share in a small part of your life through Fidonet, and thank you for taking the time to document your life story during WWII, where we can get a glimpse into knowing your life a bit better. ================================================================== From The Tale of the "Mighty 'E’astwind" Written by Warren Debrell Bonner The Tale of the "Mighty 'E’astwind" USCGC ICEBREAKER W279 1943 to 1968 A biography from WWII, North Atlantic campaign, Arctica & Antarctica Warren Debrell Bonner 222 North Shasta Orange, CA 92869-3432 wdbonner@pacbell.net About the author: I was born in Fisher County, Texas August 25,1925 on a ranch named "The Ole Eighteen", because it was eighteen miles square; and was a cattle and farming ranch, I was told by my father Owen E. Bonner. I became aware of my surroundings a couple of years later when my father built our house in the town of Sweetwater, Texas on a lot at 805 Lubbock St. We lived there until 1930. The Ole eighteen was subdivided and sold off to satisfy the depression debts, loss of cattle to Hoof & Mouth disease from Mexican cattle drives across the ranch. Later my father bought a Dairy farm East of Sweetwater and I mostly grew up on a Diary farm of 360 acres. When WWII calls for enlistments by Uncle Sam, I was finishing my junior year in Newman High School. All of my friends were already enlisted. I did too. That will be covered later in the electronic pages of the book I'm writing about a great lady of the Polar Seas. "The mighty ‘E'-astwind". [...] Chapter 1 The Mighty "E"astwind She was born on June 3, 1943... a bright warm sunny day in San Pedro, California, in the Western Pipe & Steel Company's navy yard. She was the first all diesel electric icebreaker built for Polar service, and commissioned into the Coast Guard fleet, which operated under the auspices of the US Navy in time of war. Her name was the Eastwind W279. Commissioning day, June 3, 1943 Western Pipe & Steel, San Pedro, Ca. I first saw her a few days before her commissioning day while on liberty from my temporary beach patrol duty station, N21 at Santa Barbara, Ca., while waiting for the Eastwind's completion. It had been rumored that most of us would be assigned to her. My buddy Chuck had a Harley Davidson motorcycle and we went to San Pedro, Ca. Navy Yard to get a look at her. We found her in the 'Roosevelt Dry Dock' San Pedro, Ca. What an awesome sight she was from the floor of the dry dock! She had the width abeam to almost fill the Drydock wall to wall. Almost 70 feet wide. Her keel appeared to be approximately three foot square resting on concrete supports waist high for her almost two hundred seventy foot length. Looking upward, a good forty feet to the top of the painted waterline line, and continuing our upward gaze to the antiaircraft antenna atop the mast one hundred and ninety six feet was astounding to a country boy from the middle of Texas. Looking at the mammoth screws, (propellers), made of a brass alloy we could not even guess their weight. Later we were told they weighed thirty tons. The shafts that supported these huge propellers were about three feet in diameter. It was a presidential order that compressed the five year ship building estimate into three years. He knew from his advisors that the Nazi were using weather radio stations near the North Pole, where all weather begins in the northern hemisphere, to calculate weather conditions for the V-2 rockets Hitler's war machine were raining on England, and later for recon flights and raids on Murmansk bound convoys with supplies for Russia, and amassing men and armament, for the "D-Day" invasion of Normandy. [...] Morning of September 28 found the Eastwind well off Shannon Island and running southward before a whole northerly gale. She lurched heavily at times as mountainous seas caught her in a wide yaw. Fine particles of driving snow kept the decks white and slippery, making it difficult and somewhat dangerous to get about the laboring vessel. I was on the bridge-wing, clinging tightly to the bulwark on the uproll, pressing heavily against it on the downroll. Suddenly the angry hissing of the sea and the wail of the wind were shattered by a crash. I slid along the bulwark until I could look aft and see the deck. What I saw was not a happy sight. The hold- down chains securing our plane had snapped under the terrific wind pressure. The little aircraft was lying on its side with its port wing smashed against the deck. Lieutenant M.J. Cummings and his damage-control party were passing a six-inch hawser around the plane to keep it from being carried over the side. But even from where I stood it was evident that the J2F would never fly again. This was a serious handicap. More than ever, now that the enemy might be approaching the area, we needed air reconnaissance. We would have to figure out something. The figuring out did not take long. It was dictated by the weather. Obviously winter was taking a hand and I soon would have to send the smaller ships to Iceland. The crippled Northland gave me particular concern. In spite of Butcher’s capabilities, I did not relish having her meet the advancing polar pack with her jury steering rig. Clearly it was time to re-estimate the situation. We had one new factor to take into consideration: the Eastwind’s sister ship, the brand- new Southwind. The day our plane was damaged I received a dispatch saying the Southwind was departing Boston to join my task unit. But she could not reach northeast Greenland for at least a week. If weather and ice permitted, I wanted to keep the Northland, Evergreen and Storis in the area until the Southwind arrived. What about a plane for the Eastwind? Well, since the Storis must soon depart, I would take her plane. And in view of weather conditions it would be wise to rendezvous as soon as possible. Then we could bring the Storis’ plane aboard the Eastwind at the first favorable moment.. Consequently I sent a dispatch to Lieutenant Commander Thresher, ordering him to take the Storis to Freden Bay without delay. We also ran toward Freden Bay, working through some ten miles of ice before we came to anchor in the Ice of Shannon Island near Cape Philip Broke. [...] When the Storis joined us the storm was raging stronger. The two ships could not moor alongside each other to make the exchange of aircraft. Then around midnight the Northland broke radio silence. Butcher reported he was having “a little difficulty” due to his jury steering cable having parted. Heavy seas and floes of polar ice prevented him from making repairs. A little difficulty! It was typical of the capable, self-reliant Butcher to imply he could get along without help. But I was convinced that we had better lend a hand. Ordering the Storis to stand by at Freden Bay, we hove up our anchor and stood out of our snug haven. After nearly ten hours of battling the weather and crashing through a belt of heavy ice at the entrance of Hochstetter Bay we found the stricken Northland. She was drifting helplessly in the trough and in constant danger of being thrust against wicked storis and bergs. There is little point in describing in detail the delicate maneuvers necessary to pass a line to the Northland in those heavily running seas and take her in tow. But I want to say that Chief Quartermaster Archie Brooks had the Eastwind’s wheel and gave a demonstration of unusual judgment and skill in counteracting the wave motions which yawed us violently and tended to send our ponderous bulk crashing into the Northland. We got her in tow and quickly worked up to twelve knots, giving her that fastest ride of her career---save, of course, for the night she was caught in the storm off Cape Farewell at the completion of our Jan Mayen job. The Storis was now ordered out of Freden Bay to screen us against the possibility of submarine attack, while the Evergreen was called up to scout the pack for a lead to open water. Once again that day we saw a demonstration of unusual judgment and skill. Lieutenant John E. Klang, USCG, skipper of the Evergreen, proved himself a worthy sea sailor. Without the aid of aircraft he readily located a lead into Pendulum Strait and took station outside to guide us in. We had the Northland in relatively calm water by 5:00 P.M. Then we hove short the hawser and fitted her bow into our towing crotch. Thus coupled together we proceeded like a two-car train. The Evergreen now commenced an antisubmarine patrol around the Northland, Eastwind and Storis, which huddled together in Pendulum Strait while the Northland repaired her steering rig and the Eastwind and Storis exchanged planes. Our experience with the Northland during these last twenty-four hours made me even more certain that I must get the three small ships away from northeast Greenland without delay. An air reconnaissance on September 30 added weight to this conviction. Using the plane we had taken from the Storis, Little Mac found the southern limit of the polar pack at Cape Bismark. From eastwind-2.PDF "The Tale of the "Mighty 'E’astwind", by Warren Debrell Bonner August 25,1925-November 17th, 2010 Fondly Remembered and missed by us! =+= Page 2 ======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XII December, 2010 ======================================================================= Notes from the Z1C This month our FTSC election comes to a close. Elected into office: | Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----| | Stas Degteff | 2:5080/102 | 15 | 2 | | Fred Riccio | 1:132/174 | 13 | 2 | | Dieter Ringhofer | 2:2476/14 | 13 | 1 | | Alexey Vissarionov | 2:5020/545 | 12 | 5 | | Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | 15 | 4 | | mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | 15 | 4 | | Robert Wolfe | 1:261/20 | 14 | 2 | | Andrew Leary | 1:320/119 | 13 | 2 | New members are Robert Wolfe and Andrew Leary. Congratulations to All! Thank you very much for agreeing to work for the betterment of Fidonet. We appreciate the time you are willing to give our hobby. Returning Members: ================== Region 17 Charles Waters Tacoma, Washington USA Region 14 Eric Oulashin Welcome Back Charles! Welcome to Eric! Page 3 ======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XII December, 2010 ======================================================================= The Old School Toolbox By Richard Webb, 1:116/901 It's About Communication Recently a question was posed in response to the medium temperature flame war going on in the ftsc_public echo. For those who didn't see it, Jerry Schwartz states: "FidoNet was perhaps more than just a hobby once, when it had more users than Prodigy or Delphi; but it is hardly anybody's lifeline now. "Yet here we are with a flame war going on in at least two echos, and over an FTSC election of all things. With all due respect, this is unseemly at our age." It is no surprise that the temperature in ftsc_public is so high. First, you have a candidate for reelection who, although it appears is technically competent might not have the greatest people skills. The members of the FTSC must be technically competent, but also need good communication skills, because being able to communicate effectively is part of their mission. After all, the job of the ftsc is to document existing Fidonet standards. The documentation they produce must be understandable to folks with varying levels of technical mastery. This has been the job of the FTSC since it was revived after the days of IFNA. Many have misunderstood that role over the years, instead believing that the FTSC dictates standards. IT has been explained numerous times in FIdonews, and in the echoes over the years that the duties of the FTSC are to document standards in use throughout Fidonet. This means that not just do the committee members need a good technical knowledge base, but they need to communicate this knowledge to all sorts of folks. Just like Fidonet in general, the work of that committee is about communicating, not with machines, but with human beings. Is it any wonder that when some region coordinators poll their constituents this individual receives a resounding no? Additionally, is it a surprise that certain folks would react to some of these comments in a rather partisan manner? I smelled this one in the wind as soon as the referenced individual was nominated to retain his seat on the FTSC. But, I also note that the party he picks on relentlessly has stated that he is technically competent and should probably retain his seat. In its days of large numbers of users Fidonet was about facilitating communication between people, and could be very much so again. It offers some of the advantages of usenet without some of the liabilities. But, today's fidonet is largely made up of people whose interest is the hardware, and facilitating communication between flesh and blood humans secondary. It work in a profession where the folks handling the technical details are often those who spend their days locked in a windowless room fiddling with their machines, but without the people on the business end of the microphone there would be no need for all their fiddling. Those who achieve the best results consistently in this process are those who can bridge the gap between interacting with their machines and interacting with humans. Often this means that to bring the project to completion a producer is needed, and his/her job is often bridging this gap. This gap is not well bridged in today's Fidonet. All one need do is look at the echoes which see consistent activity. The best conferences in terms of readability are those where there is actually some human interaction taking place. Hence, echoes such as cooking; memories, and the various political discussion echoes still survive. Some special interest echoes within fidonet that used to be quite active back in the day limp along with the assistance of posters who provide posts of information via autoposters and the like. OTherwise, most of the echomail conferences seeing high traffic are populated by robots. During the last election cycle for FTSC members Nick Andre and I talked a bit about ways to get web based forums linked to Fidonet echoes. Many specialized internet forums would benefit greatly from an echomail conference. Some denizens of usenet who would otherwise benefit from web-based forums in their areas of special interest refuse to use them, the interface is poor, no method of offline reading and replying such as usenet and Fidonet offer, etc. I'm one of those folks. We could benefit greatly from those specialized forums helping populate our special interest echoes. Would a concept such as Groupmail be more appropriate to some of these forums? Maybe, but that's the subject of a whole different article. Still, we have virtually no work going on in this area, and a candidate for a committee whose job is to communicate with those interested who's receiving a resounding no from some of those eligible to vote because of the way he interacts with people in the public echo. IS the man technically qualified? Indications are he is. Does the man have the skills needed to communicate well with a variety of people in the most common international language? Obviously, there are some who have doubts. One regional coordinator polled his net coordinators and independents and voted according to the results and was questioned and criticized roundly for doing so. But, it should be remembered that this RC has not forgotten what the goal of Fidonet is, and that's to facilitate communication among human beings, those flesh and blood things that sit in front of the machines. I lobbied for one of the candidates myself with numerous netmails going about, because not just is this candidate quite competent technically, but just as important is the ability he has to explain things so that folks who aren't experts can understand them. This is the true job of the FTSC and we would do well to remember that. Page 4 ======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XII December, 2010 ======================================================================= ========= |Dr. Debug| ========= Using 'Float' in a CSS StyleSheet When you use float with CSS Style Sheet, an element can be pushed to the left or right, allowing other elements to wrap around it, or be aligned one next to the other if there is room for both elements. Float is often used for images when you want them placed in a certain way, but it is also useful when working with layouts on your web page. How Elements Float Elements float horizontally. An element can only float left or right, not up or down. You can use this feature to force elements to align across a page. An element which is floated will move as far to the left or right as it can. Usually this means all the way to the left or right of the element. The elements after the floating element will flow around it. The elements before the floating element will not be affected. 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Page 5 ======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XII December, 2010 ======================================================================= -=-=-=-=-=- F O O D Even sysops have to eat! -=-=-=-=-=- By Janis Kracht, 1:261/38 = Polenta = for a Change of Pace Put 2 cups water and 2 cups Chicken stock in a large pot. Add 3/4 teaspoon salt. Bring to a boil. While whisking constantly add 1 cup fine grain yellow cornmeal. Lower the heat to medium. When well mixed, switch to a wooden spoon and stir frequently. Continue cooking for about 15-20 minutes, or until the polenta starts to pull away from the sides of the pan. Turn off the heat. Add 1 tablespoon butter and about 1/2 to 1 cup freshly grated Parmesean cheese. Stir until combined, and serve. We like polenta fried as well. This one is served soft and served with Italian pot roast. =+= Page 6 ======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XII December, 2010 ======================================================================= BBS Software List Updated 31 October 2010 Maintained by Sean Dennis (1:18/200) Editors Emeritus: Robert Couture, Janis Kracht M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility #=Info F=TIC/SRIF Processor *=Software is available and may be registerable, but no longer supported or updated. @=Website is operating but is no longer updated. ?=Software's updating/support status is unknown. O=Software is open source. This list contains BBS-related software that is available for registration (not necessarily supported), open source software and actively developed/supported software by its author. Software listed may be available for DOS, Linux, OS/2 (eComStation), Windows (16 or 32 bit) and OSX. .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node| `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -' ==> FRONT-END/INTERNET MAILERS Argus |MI*? |http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/argus/ | | v3.210 on Mar 29 2001 BinkleyTerm XE |MO* |http://btxe.sourceforge.net | | 2.60XE Beta-XH7 on Oct 22 2000 BinkD |MI? |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | | maloff@corbina.net | | v0.94 on Jul 24 2000 (Outdated) | |http://www.filegate.net/r50/aftnbinkd/ FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280 Michael Haase | | m.haase@gmx.net | | v2.4 on Sep 26 2003 FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MITPC|http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330 Definite Solutions |? | sales@defsol.se | | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX Husky Project |MTPUI|http://husky.sourceforge.net/ |O? | v1.9 RC2 on Apr 20 2010 Taurus |MI |http://www.fidotel.com/public/forums/ (based on Radius) |? | taurus/index.htm | | v5.0 Jun 12 2006 | | T-Mail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru (Russian only) |? | v2608 on Dec 12 2001 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> MAIL TOSSERS Crashmail II |TO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/ | | FastEcho |T |http://www.softeq.de/Products/FastEcho/ | | fastecho.html | | v1.46.1 on 13 Nov 2007 | | Registration keys are free and available | | by request from the author Fidogate |TUI? |http://www.fidogate.org | | v4.4.10 on Aug 27 2004 | | FMail |TO*? |http://fmail.sourceforge.net/ | | v1.60 on Mar 8 2008 | | Source code only! Squish |T* |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/ | | v1.11R2 on Jan 1 2009 | | Source code available in the Maximus BBS | | archive: http://maximus.sourceforge.net +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> BBS SOFTWARE BBBS |BICTM|http://www.bbbs.net 2:22/222 | | b@bbbs.net | | v4.01 on January 28 2007 EleBBS |BO*? |http://www.elebbs.com | | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9 2002 Enthral BBS |B |http://enthralbbs.com 1:250/501 Linux/BSD/OSX | | v0.429/Alpha on 14 October 2010 | | Fidonet filebone SCENEENT Ezycom BBS |BT |http://www.ezycom-bbs.com 3:690/682 | | v2.15g2 on Nov 16 2009 GT Power |B |http://www.gtpowerbbs.com/ | | v19.00 Hermes II Project |BT |http://www.hermesbbs.com/ Macintosh-based | | malyn@strangegizmo.com | | v3.5.10b3 Maximus BBS |BO* |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/ | | v3.03 | | Source code available at: | | http://maximus.sourceforge.net/ MBSE BBS |BIO? |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802 | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net | | v0.92.0 on Oct 16 2007 Meltdown BBS |UIO |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/ | | v1.0b on Apr 26 2004 Mystic BBS |BO* |http://www.mysticbbs.com | | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001 RemoteAccess BBS |B? |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120 | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | v2.62.2SW Renegade BBS |B |http://renegadebbs.info 1:129/305 | | v1.10/DOS on 3 Oct 2009 Spitfire BBS |B? |http://www.buffalocrk.com/ | | mdwoltz@buffalocrk.com | | v3.6 on Aug 20 1999 Synchronet BBS |BTIO |http://www.synchro.net 1:103/705 | | v3.16 on 31 Dec 2006 Telegard BBS |B* |http://www.telegard.net | | v3.09g2-sp4/mL on Dec 19 1999 WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com Xpress: Santronics | | Software, Inc. | | +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> TIC PROCESSORS/FILEFIX/SRIF Allfix |FIUT |http://www.allfix.com/ 1:140/12 | | v6.00g19 21 Apr 2009 NEF/pk |F |http://nefpk.8m.com/ | | v2.45b2 on 5 March 2000 TinyTIC |FO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/ | | 1:120/544 VIReq |FO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/ | | 1:120/544 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> BBS DOORS/UTILITIES Cheepware |DU |http://kd5col.info/cheepware.html Sean Dennis | | sdennis72@gmail.com 1:18/200 | | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE DDS (Doorware |D@ |http://www.doorgames.org Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org Ruth Argust | | Jibben Software |D* |http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ | | bbs-door-games.cfm | | scott@jibben.com | | 1995-99 Release dates John Dailey Software |DU? |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com Shining Star |D* |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ | | nannette@shiningstar.net | | Doors are still registerable via website Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com | | Tel: (404) 256-9518 T1ny's Software |DU |http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/tsoft/ Shawn Highfield | | shighfield@gmail.com 1:229/452 | | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ | | stanley@brainex.com | | 1994-99 Releases Trade Wars |D* |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ | | jpritch@eisonline.com | | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002 Vagabond Software |DU* |http://http://vbsoft.dhakota.org | | d@dhakota.org | | Last update: Apr 11 2008 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> POINT SOFTWARE CrossPoint (XP) |P? |http://www.crosspoint.de (German only) | | pm@crosspoint.de | | v3.12d on Dec 22 1999 FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de (German only) | | support@freexp.de | | v3.42 on Jun 27 2010 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> SYSOP MAIL EDITORS GoldEd+ |EO*? |http://golded-plus.sourceforge.net/ | | v1.1.5 (Snapshot) on Apr 29 2010 SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de 2:2476/493 | | v1.15 on Dec 15 1999 | | Website is in German and English +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> INTERNET UTILITIES JamNNTPd |UIO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/ Internet Rex |UI? |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/ | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806 | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001 TransNet |UIO? |http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mressl/ | | transnet/index.html | | transnet@ressl.com.ar | | v2.11 on Sep 13 2007 Ifmail |UIO |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net | | crosser@average.org MakeNL |UO |http://www.filegate.net/coordutl/ | | v3.2.9 on Feb 1 2010 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> INFORMATIONAL WEBSITES/BBS LISTS Telnet/Dialup BBS |# |http://www.telnetbbsguide.com 1:275/89 Guide | | Maintained by Dave Perrussel | | This is probably the most updated BBS | | list on the Internet for a general | | BBS list. Synchronet BBS List |# |http://www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html | | Maintained automatically | | This list is specifically for | | Synchronet-based BBS systems and is | | automatically updated nightly. The BBS Corner |# |http://www.bbscorner.com | | This website is more than just files, | | it's an encyclopedia of knowledge for | | BBS sysops and people who want to | | become sysops. This site is run by | | the same person who does the Telnet | | BBS Guide. +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ File Archives: http://archives.thebbs.org http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org (site is no longer maintained) http://www.simtel.net http://www.bbsfiles.com http://hobbes.nmsu.edu (OS/2 specific) http://www.filegate.net/ (FTP access via port 60721) http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/ Note: Most also provide FTP access (use ftp instead of http above) The BBS Software List is published monthly in the FidoGazette. If you have corrections, suggestions or additions to the information above, please contact Sean Dennis with your information via the FIDOGAZETTE echo, netmail at 1:18/200 or email at sean@kd5col.info. Page 7 ======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XI November, 2010 ======================================================================= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= !!! G A Z E T T E B B S L I S T !!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-= By bbslist @ filegate.net Send updates, changes to address above or to janis @ filegate.net. System.......Christian Fellowship FidoAddress..1:266/512 Phone........1-856-933-7096 Software.....PCBoard 15.3 OS...........Windows XP pro C/B Verify...Manually via email or voice usually within 24 hours. Access.......Read only until verified. Once verified write access to Msg bases, file areas, chat and doors/games. Telnet.......cfbbs.dtdns.net or cfbbs.no-ip.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- System.......Lightning BBS FidoAddress..1:311/2 Software.....Virtual Advanced OS...........Windows XP C/B Verify...None Access.......First call access to doors, files and message reading. Message posting requires validation. Telnet.......lightningbbs.com www:.........http:/www.lightningbbs.com/index.php Thanks to VADV-PHP you can access almost everything the BBS has to offer from the web, with the exception of door games. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- System.......Lionsden BBS FidoAddress..1:224/303 Phone........613-392-8896 Software.....Sunchronet OS...........Windows XP C/B Verify...None Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, and file areas. Telnet.......lionsden.darktech.org telnet access offers full features of the standard bbs such as doors, qwkmail, Files, etc. www:.........http:/www.lionsden.darktech.org You will redirected to a menu where you can choose one of three sites. The first one is private and requires PW to get into. FTP..........FTP://lionsden.darktech.org Files only =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- System.......Paragon FidoAddress..1:18/200 Phone........423-926-7999 Software.....Maximus OS...........OS/2 Warp 4.52 C/B Verify...None Access.......Manual verification for full access Telnet.......nsbbs.darktech.org www:.........http://kd5col.info =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- System.......Prism BBS FidoAddress..1:261/38 Phone........607-655-5652 Software.....BBBS LiI v4.01 Flag # OS...........Linux (Ubuntu) C/B Verify...None Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, file areas, all features of the BBS. Telnet.......filegate.net telnet access offers full features of the standard bbs such as doors, qwkmail, BWmail,Files, chat, group chat, etc. www:.........http:/www.filegate.net:8080/bbbs web interface is limited to reading messages and replying online, or downloading messages in qwk packets, but not uploading them, file download access, guest account. FTP: filegate.net, port 60721. public access to file areas (please note change of port for public access). =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- System.......Roach Guts BBS FidoAddress..1:396/60 Phone:.......337-433-4135 Software.....Maximus on Port 23 (primary) Synchronet on Port 24 (temporary) OS...........Windows XP C/B Verify...None Access.......First call access to doors, files and message reading. Message posting requires validation. Telnet.......roachguts.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- System.......Time Warp of the Future BBS FidoAddress..1:14/400 Phone........none Software.....sbbs 3.15a (very beta) OS...........win. (xp pro. sp3) C/B Verify...None Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, and file areas. Telnet.......time.synchro.net:24 or time.darktech.org:24 or timewarpfuture.dyndns.org:24 telnet access offers full features of the standard bbs such as doors, messages or file area etc. www:.........http://time.synchro.net:81 Web interface is limited really to reading messages and replying online, or downloading messages in qwk packets, but not uploading them, and file download access. SBBS files available. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =#= Page 8 ======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XII December, 2010 ======================================================================= ----------------------- - e-Ministries - - by Jon Justvig - - December 2, 2010 - ----------------------- Issue #: 5 Everything to be going so well with the creation of Heaven, Earth, night and day, all of life including the animals and flock of the air. Now something terrible happens. With all good things, there is always it's equal and opposite. [KJV] Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? Remember, serpent or snake also means "liar and deceiver". A creature that is so subtil (meaning persuasiven) was about to change mankind forever. This serpent is now tempting Eve against what God had specifically forbidden. When you go against God you're asking for trouble. This is exactly what is about to take place. [KJV] Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: [KJV] Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: God was telling the truth, he wasn't lying when he said if you touch it you will die. This doesn't mean that you will pass away immediately, just that there's going to be a consequence for the action that is taken if you disobey God. [KJV] Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: [KJV] Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Knowing good and evil was never intended to be our job, this created the ultimate problem we see now until the end. Man and woman wasn't meant to be God, play or pretend. This was Satan's problem when he tried to overthrow God. He was the most beautiful angel in Heaven and the moment he tried to do one up on God was time he was fallen and he will fall forever, taking as many souls he can with him. So, keep your guard up and don't be fooled by the wicked schemes of the devil. [KJV] Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. It might have looked good and tasted good, it wasn't meant for us. Woman and man alike were pure up to this point until Eve took that fruit and ate it. Hey, this is good fruit, I'll give it to my husband. So now both man and woman were set for destruction. What always seem pleasing could be pleasing for the wrong reason and intent. Temptation plays a part in a lot of peoples lives and destroys them inside and out. Just like this death wasn't immediate that doesn't mean it's not going to happen. We fool ourselves sometimes with this kind of thinking. [KJV] Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. It wasn't because they were naked, they were filled with guilt by going against God. You can run but you can't hide. [KJV] Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. Hiding from God set off the loudest bells you could hear with God. Doing something you're not supposed to do and then trying to hide because they believed in their heart they had done wrong and didn't want to claim it. It was the only thing God asked them to do and they didn't do it. You know temptation is something. If you know you can't do something, you want to do it. If you can do it, you don't want to. [KJV] Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. If you sow a pineapple tree, you will get pineapple. If it soe a cherry tree, you will get cherries. If you sow hate towards someone even if they don't hate you, someone that does will come along and do it to you even more. Have love and peace in your heart and you should have a good day. Always meditate on the Word of God, night and day. Just keep in mind, if you disobey God, you're going to get his wrath one way or another and it's different for everybody because we're all were created different, one thing might not bother us like it would someone else. God knows our heart. Read the word and be obedient! [KJV] Gen 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? We all know that God knew what had already been done. He has a God-sense for this kind of thing. So God is calling Adam out from where he's hiding. [KJV] Gen 3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. Naked? How on earth did Adam know how was naked. Of course, his eyes were open, knowing good and evil. From time to time, I see people somewhere or another that are blind, never seeing the world seem the most blessed and happy. Just brings up the question, are we deceived if were told not to see? It's that temptation again of what it is that you want to see knowing you can't. I wondering what went into the mind of Adam and Eve's imagination of what they saw and dreamed of before they were opened up to this fresh can of worms. [KJV] Gen 3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? [KJV] Gen 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. See, now the truth comes out. And, he couldn't take the blame for what he had done, he wanted to put the blame on Eve too just as Eve gave Adam the fruit from the forbidden tree. I have to do it, you do too. Think about the punishment from God being deceived in your own life, doing something you know is wrong in your heart and do it anyway. Next time we'll go over what happened as the consequence. Remember to look up, keep your heart strong. Don't let anybody fool you into doing something that you know in your heart is wrong. If it's right in your mind, but you have this strong feeling about it might not be right, remember, that's the holy spirit trying to stop you before you make a mistake and have to repent afterward. If you've enjoyed our meeting, remember to ask your SysOp to carry MINISTER, an echo with FidoNet if he/she doesn't already. Remember also to keep your head up high. May God bless you and keep you! *** This conclude this issue of e-Ministries provided by Jon Justvig. Page 9 ======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XII December, 2010 ======================================================================= INFO: Fidogazette is published by Janis Kracht, Editor, with the help of Richard Webb 1:116/901 (Old School ToolBox), and Sean Dennis 1:18/200 (The Slightly Crusty Sysop). If you have an idea for a column or a series of articles, please contact me :) New! Email subsriptions via www.filegate.net, but of course you can always link into your uplink and use Tick or a tick compatible program: Where to Send Your Articles Unlike most editors, I surely do not mind running my mouth when there is a sparcity of articles for the 'zine. I'd MUCH rather you sent in material but I think until someone starts a discussion you feel like commenting about, you evil dullards (just kidding!!!) will no doubt complain about "no issues" (grin) So I will fill these issues with my meanderings and thoughts and hopefully we will grow into something of consequence here :) Don't be offended.. write an article! If you WOULD like to submit an article and prove me wrong about the dullard aspect of you guys and gals , feel free to drop your article off at: By email attach to address: janis @ filegate.net Fidonet attach: Janis Kracht at 1:261/38 Modem: 607-655-5652 1:261/100 filegate.net port 24555 via binkp or telnet mailer (don't send articles as routed attaches, send them direct to filegate.net). Standard binkp port only supports BinkP (24554). Give it a title, sign your name and network address if you have one and send it along! Don't worry about the format, I can take anything you send me and mutilate it further as you can see above. Linux is nice that way (g). Spell checking your own work will help though (something I'm typically guilty of (g)). To send reviews or recipes to the Food section, email or netmail Janis as above. New email address for submissions to Dr.Debug: To send a question to Dr. Debug, email a question to drdebug @ filegate.net or post in the fidogazette echo! :) To send a listing to the fidogazette internet bbs list, send your bbs listing to bbslist @ filegate.net or post it in the fidogazette echo! :) Page 10 ======================================================================= T h e F i d o G a z e t t e! Volume IV Number XII December, 2010 =======================================================================